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June/July 2007

 

FROM OUR EDITOR

 

Sorry you are reading this about a week later then I expected due to an unexpected virus hitting my computer and making me have to reformat my entire computer.  Luckily I had just backed up my data about 3 days earlier, or I would’ve really been hurting.  It takes a few days to get all the stuff back on beings I am a working stiff and the kids use the computer about as much as I do.  So I had to put a little here and little there, not to mention that most of the data I had in the news letter was lost as I didn’t back up that stuff, but luckily I did back up all my BBQ photos etc…

 

Speaking of the HFRF BBQ raffle this year; well it was WAY down on participation and Joe had a load of nice babies in it too, which made it good for the few that came.  We held this event on schedule which was Sunday June 10th at Mike Tarbox’s, which is just between Corning and Red Bluff.  We did get Paul Thao and the Vang brothers from Sacramento here for the event.  I had been hoping to invite them all up to my place but the wife was not in the best of moods so I had to tell them maybe next time.   I know that Paul came out on top for most things but this was mostly due to him dropping in $100 worth of raffle tickets and he definitely got his money’s worth on this day.

 

My other being late “excuse” is that I had also neglected to send out the reminder for everyone to send in their HFRF news letter updates until after the BBQ and this slowed things down also. 

 

The birds are picking up a bit here but you can read this in my “UPDATE” below.

 

It was super exciting again to see that Joe Urbon won the World Cup Regional here again for the 3rd year in a row if I am correct?  That is an awesome thing and Joe has had one heck of a run in recent years, I bet he is sure glad he made that move to Yuba City when he did?  Had he stayed in the Fairfield area he would not be flying much that is for sure.  (See the report below)

 

I am very proud of Joe who is my longest friend ever, for those who don’t know us well.  We have been friends since the very beginning with the rollers, I was 10 and he was 8 I think?  I can still see him in the back of my mind now.  That has been such a long time ago.   I didn’t take many photos back then when we first started but make sure to see the old photos page for some of me and Joe from the high school days.

 

I also found out that my old friend Rodman Pasco in Hawaii won his first regional fly and has had birds from me since 1995, one of the first to get birds from me next to Randy Wilson in Oklahoma.  He pretty much dominated over there.

 

Our very own Wendell Spisak, original HFRF associate, also won his regional World Cup fly and you can read his “Who’s Who” profile in this months news letter. 

 

I want to say great job to both these fanciers for putting in all the hard work and dedication to keeping these great kits together.  It takes a lot of discipline to keep a team together with all the predators just eating you all up big time.

 

I think that it’s time to start advertising our sport and hobby.  I will make up another advertising flyer to put up at the feed store and maybe run a small ad in the nickel, free one.  We need to leave this sport in good shape and this means promoting it from the junior ranks.  The HFRF has done as good a job at this in the past as any club in the area.  We lost more then a few this past year but you can bet they’ll be back in a few years and in a big way for this region.

 

The roller sport made national news last month when we found out about a “Sting” operation with the Fish and Game which appeared to be mostly around the Los Angelos area and broke the National News on May 24th.  You can see complete coverage on this below.  The scary thing is that I personally know several of these guys and many of us do.  This will be a real eye opener for some of you.

 

This was a lot of negative news but I can bet that there are lot more out there that are familiar with what the rollers are now then ever before, but now we will have to let them know that this is not some sort of hobby where we are out to kill predators.  The articles almost make us look like a hobby that is here to attract predators so that we can kill them which is outrageous to think. 

 

I would encourage you all to send in editorials to your news papers and also do some speaking at your kids schools to inform people better about what a joy it is to breed and fly these rollers and keep it as a “club” forum.  We all know that some take things to new levels and a lot of this deals with the competition aspect of this hobby. 

 

The HFRF has learned to survive more of your birds that you just can’t fly them all year long anymore.  Most in the HFRF is forced to lock the birds down for at least 2-3 months a year or they will park in your yard and never leave until your birds are all gone.  Once the food is gone they will be also.  So you have to basically “starve” them out, this way they will have to leave and look for food else where.

 

The LA guys have not yet adapted this reality and they fly competition all year long, which is a lot of the problems.  I think that with all this exposure in recent months they will also be forced to cut back on the competition flying to get rid of the predator problems, kind of like starving them out also.  You just have to discipline yourself and you will be able to survive some good ones.  

 

The predators are exploded over the last decade and we don’t’ see it getting any better.   They tell me that 75% of the predators hatched in the wild die and I thought I had it bad loosing around 40% a year to predators!  Guess that 25% that is surviving is pretty damn good hunters huh?  They might be true but when you have dozens of pairs of coopers breeding in every corner, about 1 pair per square mile that is a lot of babies?  If a town or local area has 100 cooper (say 20-30 square mile area) babies a year, 25 new ones will survive each season? think about that and wonder why they are eating all the wild birds too?  Then you figure in them migrating from the mountains each winter and BAM we have an infestation of them and this doesn't figure in all the other raptors making the journey south or from the hills to migrate.

 

Hi Five

Dave Henderson

  

FEATURED TOPIC

 

The roller world recently made national news,May 24th, 2007.  I am sure that many of you are aware of these facts but many of you are not informed of what went on.  I am sure you will find this article a little disturbing that the fish and game dept would go under cover in our “Roller World”.  This article is unreal and not the best way to make national news. Many of you will be amazed at WHO was arrested. Several of them are personal friends of members/associates of the HFRF.

 

 

SEVEN CALIFORNIA ‘ROLLER PIGEON’ ENTHUSIASTS CHARGED WITH KILLING, OR HELPING TO KILL, PROTECTED HAWKS AND FALCONS

 

Contacts

CA: Special Agent Lisa Nichols 619-557-5063
Scott Flaherty 916-978-6156
OR: David Patte 503-231-6121
USDOJ: Thom Mrozek 213-894-6947

Multi-State Investigation Includes Subjects in Oregon and Texas

Federal authorities have charged seven Southern California men associated with "roller pigeon" clubs on charges related to the fatal beatings and shootings of federally protected raptors. Six of the defendants were arrested throughout the day yesterday as part of a nationwide investigation - Operation High Roller - that is targeting roller pigeon owners who believe that hawks and falcons, while protected under federal law, should be killed because they attack pigeons, particularly when they suffer seizures in flight and tumble uncontrollably toward the ground.

The seven cases in Southern California, along with charges filed against defendants in Oregon and Texas, are part of a 14-month investigation by special agents with the United States Fish and Wildlife Service. In California, a special agent infiltrated several roller pigeon clubs and learned about members' efforts to trap and kill raptors, specifically Cooper's hawks, red-tailed hawks and Peregrine falcons, according to court documents. Investigators estimate that leaders and members of the National Birmingham Roller Club (NBRC) and other enthusiast organizations in the Los Angeles metropolitan area are responsible for killing 1,000 to 2,000 raptors annually. One official of the NBRC claims to have killed as many as 50 raptors annually for the past several years, according to court documents. One defendant told the investigating agent that he had filled a five-gallon bucket with talons that he had cut from slain hawks.

The seven California defendants are affiliated with clubs that promote and compete with roller pigeons - also known as Birmingham rollers - which are native to England and have a genetic defect that causes them to flip backwards while in flight. Enthusiasts breed the pigeons with an eye toward having a group of the birds roll simultaneously, while recovering before hitting the ground. However, the distinctive nature of the birds' flight attracts predators, such as Cooper's hawks, because the in-flight flipping makes them appear to be easy targets.

The seven defendants are charged with violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, which protects birds such as the hawks and falcons that prey upon roller pigeons. It is illegal to harass, kill or possess migratory birds, such as the Cooper's hawk, without a special permit. Criminal complaints filed May 17 in United States District Court in Los Angeles allege that the defendants used traps baited with pigeons to collect raptors and that they used sticks or pellet guns to kill the birds. In some cases, according to an affidavit, individuals admitted to the undercover agent that they used shotguns or .22-caliber rifles to shot hawks and falcons out of the air. The affidavit states that one member of the NBRC admitted to the undercover agent that he sometimes sprayed hawks with a bleach and ammonia solution, which created poisonous chlorine gas and suffocated the birds.

On repeated instances, the undercover agent observed roller pigeon fanciers in Los Angeles using "goshawk" traps to capture Cooper's hawks. According to the agent's affidavit, many of the roller pigeon aficiandos openly discussed trapping, shooting and poisoning hawks and falcons. Fish and Wildlife Service agents around the country report that members of the NBRC are using the same goshawk trap found in the California investigation in the states of Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Texas, Wisconsin and New York.

All of the defendants are charged with at least one count of the unlawful or attempted unlawful taking of a migratory bird. The six defendants arrested yesterday are:

-- Juan Navarro, 44, of the Los Feliz district of Los Angeles, who is the national president of the NBRC.

-- Keith London, 42, of South Los Angeles, who is the owner of The Pigeon Connection store and is president of the Inner City Roller Club.

-- Darik McGhee, 38, of San Bernardino, who builds and sells hawk traps and pigeon lofts.

-- Brian McCormick, 40, of Norco, a past-president of the California Performance Roller Club.

-- Timothy Decker, 60, of Mira Loma.

-- Rayvon Hall, 46, of Rialto.

Navarro, London, McGhee and McCormick made their initial court appearances yesterday afternoon and were released on bond. They are scheduled to be arraigned next month. Decker and Hall remain in custody and are expected to make their initial court appearances this afternoon in United States District Court in Los Angeles.

An arrest warrant has been issued for the seventh defendant ? Efren Lopez Jr., 28, of Hacienda Heights.

Each of the offenses charged against the defendants carries a maximum possible penalty of six months in federal prison.

Criminal complaints contain allegations that a defendant has committed a crime. Every defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.

The cases announced today are the product of an ongoing investigation by the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, which conserves and manages the 913 native species/populations of migratory birds. The California Department of Fish and Game assisted in the arrests made yesterday.

In other districts, federal authorities have charged several individuals as a result of Operation High Roller.

The United States Attorney's Office for the District of Oregon filed charges on Monday against Mitch Reed, 29, of Mount Angel, Oregon, and Peter Kaufman, 53, of Portland, Oregon, who were each charged with one count of violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act by attempting to take a raptor. Ivan Hanchett, 54, of Hillsboro, Oregon, was charged with two counts of violating the act. Reed, Kaufman and Hanchett are expected to make their initial court appearances in the coming weeks.

Federal prosecutors in Houston filed charges yesterday against Neil Keng, 58, of Laporte, Texas, a member of a local pigeon racing club, for trapping a Cooper's Hawk in his backyard in December 2006. Keng will be summoned to appear in court in the coming weeks.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is the principal Federal agency responsible for conserving, protecting and enhancing fish, wildlife and plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people. The Service manages the 95-million-acre National Wildlife Refuge System which encompasses 547 national wildlife refuges, thousands of small wetlands and other special management areas. It also operates 69 national fish hatcheries, 63 fishery resource offices and 81 ecological services field stations. The agency enforces Federal wildlife laws, administers the Endangered Species Act, manages migratory bird populations, restores nationally significant fisheries, conserves and restores wildlife habitat such as wetlands, and helps foreign governments with their conservation efforts. It also oversees the Federal Aid program that distributes hundreds of millions of dollars in excise taxes on fishing and hunting equipment to State fish and wildlife agencies.

Here are several other articles depicting this same situation that might also be of interest to you.

Agents arrest 6 local men in 'roller pigeon' ring

By Joe Mozingo, Times Staff Writer
2:41 PM PDT, May 24, 2007

 

U.S. Fish and Wildlife agents infiltrated the odd subculture of "roller pigeon" clubs in Los Angeles and found that members were illegally killing hawks and falcons that prey on their birds, officials said today.

A roller pigeon, in the eyes of those who collect them, distinguishes itself in mid-flight by doing aerobatics or rolling over. Hobbyists from around the country come together to compete and judge each team's ability to work in unison.

But a roller pigeon, in the eyes of a hawk or falcon, is fast food.

Hobbyists in
Southern California became fed up by raptors spoiling their competitions and, according to a federal indictment released today, began illegally trapping and killing the predators.

Six men from
Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties, including the president of a national umbrella group for the hobbyists, were arrested this week on charges of violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

The indictment was the result of a yearlong investigation in which agents with the Fish and Wildlife Service infiltrated roller pigeon clubs from
South Los Angeles to Rialto for more than a year. They did nighttime surveillance, placed covert phone calls, set up remote cameras and dug through trash cans.

An affidavit of the inquiry, detailing authorities' allegations against the suspects, reads like a noir novel:

Skulking around the home of Keith London on
West 83rd Street in Los Angeles, Fish and Wildlife Service Agent Ed Newcomer saw a trap on the roof and "what appeared to be a large bird flapping its wings."

Newcomer and Agent Ho Truong watched as
London, president of the Inner City Roller Club, allegedly climbed the roof, shot the bird with a pellet gun and threw it into his backyard.

"A short time later I observed
London emerge from his residence carrying an object wrapped in a white paper bag," the affidavit said, and London put it in his trash can. The agents "maintained surveillance on the garbage can" until London left his home 45 minutes later and they opened it up.

"Inside the white package, I recovered what I recognized as a dead Cooper's hawk. The carcass appeared to have a puncture wound or bullet wound to his chest. I noticed that the Cooper's hawk carcass was fresh, warm and limp."

The agents bagged it and sent it a federal lab in
Oregon for an autopsy and ballistics analysis.

Two weeks later they got the results. Just what they expected: killed by trauma from a .22-caliber pellet.


 

Pigeon hobbyists held

Area men accused of killing thousands of protected raptors

By Rod Leveque, Staff Writer

 

 

Four local pigeon enthusiasts were among a handful of men arrested this week on federal charges alleging they illegally trapped and killed thousands of protected hawks and falcons.

 

Prosecutors said the men, all of whom are associated with Southern California "roller pigeon" clubs, targeted Cooper's hawks, red-tailed hawks and peregrine falcons because of the raptors' natural tendency to attack and eat the pet pigeons.

Wildlife officials said it appears SoCal pigeon club members have killed as many as 2,000 of the raptors per year for the last several years - a large enough number to potentially knock the local ecosystem out of whack - all in the name of protecting their flocks.

"These are predatory birds - they're at the top of the food chain," said Lisa Nichols, a special agent with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

"When you take any predator out of the ecosystem you create a huge imbalance in that ecosystem."

The four local men were among seven Southern California residents arrested this week as part of a nationwide investigation into the illegal killings of hawks and falcons.

Federal authorities identified them as Darik McGhee, 38, of San Bernardino; Brian McCormick, 40, of Norco; Timothy Decker, 60, of Mira Loma; and Rayvon Hall, 46, of Rialto.

 

Two Los Angeles men, including the president of a national roller pigeon club, and a man from Hacienda Heights were also arrested.

All have pleaded not guilty to charges in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles.

 

Investigators said the men are all involved in clubs that breed and fly roller pigeons, which are also known as Birmingham Rollers. The pigeons are bred with a genetic defect that causes them to flip and tumble toward the ground as they fly.

 

Enthusiasts hold competitions in which they try to get groups of birds to tumble simultaneously and fall as far as possible without slamming into the ground.

Biologists said the awkward flight of the birds can make them appear injured or vulnerable, which attracts the attention of predatory raptors, who target them for food.

 

Special agents with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service infiltrated several roller pigeon clubs in March 2006 and discovered members were routinely trapping and killing hawks and falcons. Such birds are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. The act makes it illegal to harass, kill or possess them without a permit.

 

According to a federal arrest warrant affidavit, most of the suspects used large, wooden traps baited with pigeons to capture hawks in their back yards. Once the birds were trapped, the men shot them with pellet guns or small-caliber rifles, or beat them with sticks, and then discreetly disposed of the bodies.

Hall allegedly told an undercover investigator he sometimes killed the predators by spraying them in the face with a poisonous mixture of bleach and ammonia.  According to the affidavit, McGhee made and sold the traps used by many of the other men. He also claimed to have used them himself and boasted to the undercover agent that he had killed so many hawks that he was able to fill a five-gallon bucket with talons he sliced off the carcasses, according to the affidavit.

 

Several pigeon aficionados said Thursday that it appears to them the hawk population has boomed over the last two years, and there are now so many hawks in the sky that pigeon collectors can rarely fly their birds in safety. Nearly everyone in the pigeon community knows killing raptors is illegal, but some do it anyway because they see no alternative for protecting their flocks, they said.  Fernando Avalos, vice president of the California New Line Roller Club in Norwalk, said his group does not condone killing raptors, but he understands the frustration of the hobbyists who do.

They are in the wrong, but what can they do to protect their birds?" Avalos said. "You can't even let your birds out anymore. I've kept mine in for a month."

One hawk can decimate an entire flock of pigeons, he said. The pigeons cost anywhere from $5 to $100 apiece.

Nichols, however, said hobbyists who breed birds that are attractive to predators and then fly them in the natural habitat of the predators have no business complaining when the predators come calling.

She said they either need to accept the losses or find another hobby to occupy their time.

"They've created a hobby that has certain risks," she said. "It's like telling a race-car driver to not drive fast because it's too dangerous."

Authorities dubbed their investigation into the bird deaths "Operation High Roller."

All of the defendants are charged with at least one count of unlawful taking of a migratory bird, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles.

Each count carries a maximum penalty of six months in federal prison.

In addition to the California arrests, federal authorities have also filed similar charges against three men in Oregon and one in Texas.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Johns said an investigation is ongoing and more charges and arrests are possible.

 

Here is an Update from June 8, 2007

Pigeon Hobbyists Charged for Killing Birds of Prey
Contacts
David Patte (503) 231-6121
Dirk Hoy or Robert Romero (503) 682-6131

Three Oregon Cases Are Part of a Nationwide Effort to Stop the Illegal Killing of Hawks, Peregrine Falcons, and Other Birds of Prey

Federal authorities have charged three Oregon men with unlawfully attempting to take, capture, and kill red-tailed and Cooper's hawks, and/or peregrine falcons, in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. The defendants, all leaders of 'roller pigeon' clubs, were arraigned in the Portland, Oregon, United States District Court on June 8. The charges are part of a larger investigation across the United States 'Operation High Roller' that targets roller pigeon owners who kill hawks and falcons, despite their protected status under federal law

 

In southern California seven arrests were made. The investigation determined that leaders and members of the National Birmingham Roller Club (NBRC) and other enthusiast organizations in the Los Angeles metropolitan area are responsible for killing 1,000 to 2,000 raptors annually.

The arrests and charges are the result of a 14-month investigation of roller pigeon hobbyists and clubs in California, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Texas and other states by law enforcement agents of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service.

 

The criminal complaints filed in Oregon allege that the defendants shot birds, and used traps baited with pigeons to collect and kill raptors. These activities are alleged to have occurred at the defendants' residences where they raise and fly roller pigeons. The defendants are all affiliated with clubs that promote and compete roller pigeons - also known as Birmingham rollers - which are native to England and have a genetic defect that causes them to flip backwards while in flight. Enthusiasts breed the pigeons with an eye toward having a group of the birds roll simultaneously, then recover before hitting the ground. Raptors are attracted by the pigeons' unusual flipping, interpreting the behavior as that of a sick or weakened bird, and thus easy prey. The defendants are members of the NBRC's local Portland area club, known as the Northwest Roller Jockeys.

 

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is continuing its investigation on the illegal use of such traps or other illegal activities effecting migratory birds such as raptors. The traps are large, box-like structures with walls of wire mesh, designed to bait and trap hawks, falcons and owls. They consist of two parts, a bait cage and a trap mechanism constructed with a wooden "A" frame. See picture at http://www.fws.gov/pacific/highroller . Anyone with information should contact Fish and Wildlife Service law enforcement agents, Dirk Hoy or Robert Romero, at (503) 682-6131, or e-mail information to PacificLawEnforcement@fws.gov

 

The Audubon Society of Portland is offering a $1,500 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone illegally killing birds of prey. The reward is part of the Society's ongoing Migratory Bird Protection Fund. The Audubon Society of Portland's many bird conservation activities include a significant effort to restore peregrine falcon populations in the Portland area. The Society also manages a wildlife rehabilitation program based at the Wildlife Care Center on NW Cornell Road in Portland.

 

The Oregon defendants include: Mitch Reed of Mount Angel, and Peter Kaufman of Portland, each charged with one count of unlawfully attempting to take, capture, and kill red-tailed and Cooper's hawks, and/or Peregrine falcons, in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. Ivan Hanchett of Hillsboro, is charged with two counts of same.

 

Migratory birds are among our most highly valued natural resources and require regional, national and international conservation programs. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service conserves and manages the 913 native species/ populations of migratory birds, including many raptors, in partnership with others to fulfill international treaty obligations and U.S. trust responsibilities. The Migratory Bird Treaty Act is the primary legislation in the United States established to conserve migratory birds. The act prohibits the taking, killing, or possession of migratory birds unless permitted by the Secretary of the Interior. Authorized take and possession is focused on a limited number of allowable activities such as research, rehabilitation, education, depredation control and other purposes.

 

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is the principal Federal agency responsible for conserving, protecting and enhancing fish, wildlife and plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people. The Service manages the 95-million-acre National Wildlife Refuge System, which encompasses 547 national wildlife refuges, thousands of small wetlands and other special management areas. It also operates 69 National Fish Hatcheries, 64 Fishery Resources Offices and 81 Ecological Services field stations. The agency enforces federal wildlife laws, administers the Endangered Species Act, manages migratory bird populations, restores nationally significant fisheries, conserves and restores wildlife habitat such as wetlands, and helps foreign and Native American tribal governments with their conservation efforts. It also oversees the Federal Assistance program, which distributes hundreds of millions of dollars in excise taxes on fishing and hunting equipment to state fish and wildlife agencies.

Here is a joke circulating after these events;


Three men are sitting in a prison cell. They each looked at each other and asked why they were in.
The first guy says, "I murdered my wife".
The second guy says, "I robbed a bank then stole a car".
The two look at the third guy and ask him what did he do that was so bad to land him in prison.
He replied, "I had a goshawk trap"

 

Here is a blog posted on a falcontry site;

 “Pigeons On Top –Then Moving On”

The discussion is ongoing below, but I want take a moment to condense and organize my thoughts on this situation. (It’s my blog after all, right?) And then move on to other things. This is a little bit exhausting.

  • The men who were arrested were criminals and others in their “in group” may be as well. ‘nuff said. I don’t want to make assumptions about all pigeoners.
  • When USFWS does elaborate stings whether out of necessity or for questionable reasons it hurts all of us. A successful undercover operation is justification for more such operations. We don’t want to be policed in this manner whether we are pigeoners, falconers, exotic animal breeders, or ranchers.  
  • The problem of raptors killing pigeons is not going to go away. It can however be reduced by coming at the problem in an appropriate manner. There are ethologists, biologists and behaviorists that solve these problems for a living and are good at it. As a friend of mine and professional applied behavior analyst said to me today, “First step: Facts through careful discussions with the experts and stake holders. Take great care to track your assumptions. ASK first. Do they get killed on the roll? If not we need to know that and lot more. There is nothing casual about this issue so I would steer clear of venting and rely on science to help us with our emotions.”  What she means by “help us with our emotions” is that anger is getting in the way. If they were my pigeons I too would be furious by my lack of control over the situation, but if there were other answers, my anger would diminish.
  • If the club would reach out, gather a committee and good solutions were found, the implications would be immense. Good will could be created between all groups and we could demonstrate to USFWS that we will find ways to live with wildlife so maybe they could get off our backs. Not to mention that the solutions discovered by the pigeon groups might be applicable to conservation problems in the wild where the stakes are high for other prey species as well.  

Yeah. Yeah, I’m a Pollyanna, whatever. At least I’m offering suggestions instead of pointing my finger.

 

HFRF ANNUAL BBQ

 

The HFRF BBQ raffle went off as planned but the turn out was not so good.  I would say that at least us members got to get together and do some bsing above all else. 

 

I also enjoyed meeting with Paul Thao and the Vang brothers from Sacramento.  I think we will be seeing a lot more of them in the future.

 

See the photos I took at the BBQ on the BBQ 2007 page.

 

 

2007 BANDS

 

The HFRF bands are all gone.  We actually never had to even offer any up at the raffle as they were sold out before then.

 

Keep posted for the 2008 bands around September if you would like to get in the action this year.

 

Not sure on the color for 2008 but maybe yellow would be good?

 

WORLD CUP 2007

 

2007 Sacramento Valley

World Cup

Regional fly report

By

Brian Middaugh


This region was a blast and I met some great and wonderful people and went away having made some great friends along the way.  I would like to thank my good friend Kevin Naylor for a wonderful time and for taking the time showing me the sites around his great region. I will say there never was a dull moment. I also want to thank a few other good friends of mine for showing me a great time as well, this trip would not have been the same without their down home hospitality, Scott and Tammy Campbell, Dwight and Jackie Wallace, and Ken and Eva Firl.

I also would like to thank everyone who invited me into their backyards and the spectators who showed up even though they weren’t flying  this list is just too big to give names, but a special hi to my buddy Dave Vang, The Chef Chewy, Chris DeTorres, Arnold Jackson and Big Sal.   

Friday:


We started the fly at Scott Campbell’s in Valley Springs.  It was overcast and felt like rain.  As the birds were let loose they started to climb and they climbed pretty quickly.  The kit really ever get together very well to start working good enough.  Scott had 3 breaks and a few out birds that really hurt his score.  After everyone finished getting to know one another we were off to Art Lee loft.

Art had about the same flying condition as Scott. Art’s birds followed the same lead as Scott’s. As soon as they were turned loose the started to climb and got out of site for scoring. Art’s kit suffered as Scott and only had 2 breaks.

Next stop was at Bayani Banaag’s loft in Stockton.  Bayani put his kit up and they started working as soon as they were turned loose. Bayani had 6 breaks and good flying condition.

Then off to the loft of Chris Saybee. Chris had 2 breaks and most were a little on the short side which hurt his score. 

We then went to Arlen Ingle loft. If I remember right Arlen was one of the new flyers in this region. The birds flew at a good judging height. And with this being Arlen’s first fly his goal was not to D.Q. Well he made his first goal. I wish him the best in upcoming fly’s.

Next up was Beverly Mangue but she had called and told him to scratch here as she had recently lost of lot of her birds.  She had a predator that was really eating her up. So we didn’t get to visit Beverly’s loft.

For the most part everyone that went around with us told me that most of the kits didn’t act right and they hardly seen them get that high on fly day. So it was something in the air or the weather conditions that messed a lot of these kits up.

Saturday:

Saturday just felt like a better day. The weather was a little cooler, and not as cloudy as the day before.

We started the day at Chuck Roe’s in Davis.  We all gathered around out front and waited for a few of the guys to show up and then the judging started. Chuck asked if it would be ok if we could watch them from the roof of his home and I said I didn’t have a problem with it so Kevin and I got on the roof and was able to keep an eye on the birds the entire time. Chuck’s birds worked well and then shut it off for a little while. But being on the roof we had a good view of what they were doing on the other side of the trees. Chuck did have a nice half turn during the scoring.

Then it was off to my buddy Paul Fullerton’s loft in Woodland. Paul had just built a new loft and it sure did look good. Nice job on the loft Paul. Paul’s birds started off good and slowed down after the 5 minute mark. He did have some good quality spinners in his A team, but were just a little flat on this day. Paul ended up just behind Chuck Roe by less than one point.

Next we headed to Miguel Gonzales loft back in Sacramento. Miguel had some very nice birds in his kit but the wind had caught him and pushed his birds behind the trees and out of sight for a while.  When the kit returned back into sight he had a few birds that were just a little to tired and stayed out of the kit and that pretty much stopped the scoring and then to top it off  they landed early.  Sorry Miguel I wish you the best this fall.

So then it was off to my new buddy Chor Vang.  Chor got his fly started off a little on the rough side. One of his birds came out of the kit box a little too early. Then when the rest were released the others he had one crash into a large tree across the street.  Chor’s kit did have some nice depth and they looked good for the most part but his out birds really hurt him.

Next up was Dwight and Jackie Wallace’s for his kit and a break for lunch.  When we arrived at Dwight’s there was a nice turnout of people who wanted to watch Dwight’s birds. So everyone was visiting with one another and looking at Dwight’s set-up, which I must say it was a very nice. Dwight turned his kit loose and they worked well for him but I did miss a couple of breaks because of the trees. His kit looked very good when they were in site.  So when the scoring was tallied we had a new leader who had edged out Chuck Roe by only .325, now that is CLOSE.  At this time the top 3 kits were within 1.18 points of each other.  

Dwight and his wife had a cook out for everyone and man was good. Those chicken wings were awesome. The topic of discussion during the cook out was right up my alley, chickens and rollers. Chris and Sal kept me going, like I said before there was never a dull minute. I didn’t want the party to end but we had to make our way over to Joe Urbon’s loft in Yuba City.

As soon as we got to Joe’s he released his kit.  They showed me some very good work and great style.  There was one monster break that I missed and didn’t get to score correctly as they were just going busted a top of a tree.   Joe’s birds looked nice and you could tell they were on for there fly.  Joe’s kit  had 18 breaks and put him into a serious lead at this point.  Joe also had some very nice looking birds.   I asked Joe what he was flying as in ages of his kit and he told me he had a couple of 4 year olds in the kit and some only 1 year old.

Our next stop was only a short drive over to Don Siggins’ loft. Don’s birds had been hit by predators pretty frequently and this put the birds automatically in the defensive mode and they were really lacking snap.  Better luck in the future Don. 

Kevin and I traveled to Ken and Eva Firl for the night and by the time we got there they had made us a wonderful dinner.  So we joined them and their beautiful kids for dinner.  I must ad the dessert that Eva made was out of this world.  Ken and Eva thank you for the wonderful meal and great company of you and your kids.  This made my visit there even more special.

Sunday:


That was going to be a short day since I was leaving for home around mid-morning. We started off flying Ken’s kit. The weather had turned cooler and there was a light rain during Ken’s fly. The birds looked good for the first few minutes and then shut down.

Then we were off to Bill Crider’s. Bill I will say your birds was the hardest for me to judge.  It wasn’t that his birds weren’t working as they were but the way they broke made it very difficult to score them. I think had they slowed down they would’ve had more opportunity to score. 

Then it was back to see Paul Fullerton’s B-Team.  Now I know I heard Paul talking of all the secret methods he was using on his B-team.  I think he must have scared them all pretty bad and I wonm’t go into details but his secrets didn’t help.

Then it was time to end this party and head back east.  Guys and ladies I had a great time and hope to come back again, hint I would come back in a heart beat.  Best of luck to all of you and I hope you can find a replacement in that position that Kevin Naylor had filled for so many years and the great job he had done. Kevin you are the man and you are a good friend of mine. Good luck to you and your birds in the future. I hope you, Christopher and Stephanie {hope I spelled it right} have a grand and wonderful life.
 

Here are the scores of the fly:

1-Joe Urbon- 5,8,7,6,5,5,7,5,10,7,6,6,6,5,7,9,7,5= R-126 Q-1.4 D-1.5 T=264.60(Qualifier)
2-Dwight Wallace#1- 7,5,5,7,8,5,5,5,6,5,5,5,5= R-73 Q-1.3 D-1.25 T=118.625(Qualifier)
3-Chuck Roe#1- 10,6,5,5,6,5,7,5,5,6= R-70 Q-1.3 D-1.3 T=118.30
4-Paul Fullerton#1- 5,5,6,9,5,7,6,5,6,6= R-60 Q-1.35 D-1.45 T=117.45
5-Ken Firl#1- 6,7,9,5,7,5,6,6,5,6= R-62 Q-1.35 D-1.3 T=108.81
6- Bill Crider#1- 5,5,5,5,6,5,5,5= R-41 Q-1.2 D-1.2 T=59.04
7-Bayani Banaag#1- 6,6,5,5,6,6= R-34 Q-1.3 D-1.3 T=57.46
8-Scott Campbell#1- 7,5,5= R-17 Q-1.3 D-1.3 T=28.73
9-Art Lee#1- 5,6= R-11 Q-1.3 D1.2 T=17.16
10-Don Siggins#1- 5,6= R-11 Q-1.2 D-1.1 T=14.52
11-Chris Saybee#1- 5,5= R-10 Q-1.2 D-1.1 T=13.20
12-Paul Fullerton#2- 6= R-6 Q-1.2 D-1.3 T=9.36
13-Arlen Ingle#1- T=0
14-Chor Vang#1- T=0
15-Miguel Gonzalez-DQ (landed at 7:02)
16-Steve Bills#1- DNF(only had 13 birds due to predator attacks)
17-Beverly Mangue#1- DNF(only had 14 birds left due to predator attacks)
18-Scott Campbell#2-DNF
19-Ken Firl#2- DNF
20-Chuck Roe#2- DNF
21-Chris Saybee#2-DNF
22-Bill Crider#2- DNF
23-Steve Bills#2- DNF
24-Dwight Wallace#2- DNF
25-Beverly Mangue#2- DNF
26-Art Lee#2- DNF
27-Arlen Ingle#2- DNF
28-Chor Vang#2- DNF
29-Bayani Banaag#2- DNF
30-Don Siggons#2- DNF

**Joe’s kit was not up to par on the day of the World Cup Finals as he had not been working with them well enough and had 3 birds out most of the time which ended his chances of probably leading the World Cup at that point.

Well just hope that Joe can hang in there and stay competitive in the coming years with his own business to run etc…

Great job Joe we are all very proud of you run.

 

 

WHO IS WHO in the HFRF

 

I have wanted to put this section in the news letter for sometime.  I was able to put a simple questionnaire together and mail it out to everyone last week.  I was lucky to get back 4 of them at present so I figured I would put up a few in each news letter.  If you have sent me one back and I need a photo from you please make a point to email me a photo of your mug, preferably in front of your kit boxes or breeding loft.

 

Here is the first few to check out and I would like to thank both Wendell in Michigan and Paul Thao for sending theirs in this time.

 

                                    

 

Who are you? How old are you? Are you married/single/kids? What is your job title?

 

My name is Paul Thao.  I'm 30 years old.  I’m married to a lovely and supportive wife and we have 3 kids; Brandon 9, Michelle 7, and Nathan 1 in July.  I am an Environmental Health Specialist for Butte County.

 

How long you been raising rollers? Explain your experience.

 

I’ve been raising rollers for a couple of years now, but have not been able to obtain my desired quality of stock.

 

Who was most instrumental in progressing you with your rollers? 

 

I was turned on to quality rollers from Ger Xiong on Yuba City.  Ger even gave me a pair but I later found out they were purchased from a local flea market.  I then found out about some stock being let go from another local breeder who had too many birds and was cutting back.  I had these birds up until about 6 months ago they turned out to be completely inconsistent. 

 

How many pairs do you currently have? How many kits you flying?

 

I contacted Dave a few time via email and preordered a few 2007 birds that he could spare and then he told me about the HFRF BBQ raffle that was in the Red Bluff area and was able to obtain 5 nice birds out of Dave and Joe’s stock.   I have predator problems so I really don’t want to risk flying them and will breed from them when they are old enough.  So currently no stock birds and no kit but hope soon.

Do you compete in any kit competitions? (WC and all others)

 

I am really looking forward to competition in the future but still nothing going right now.

 

How would you describe your passion for your rollers and your outlook for the future?

 

After meeting and talking to Joe and Dave recently I have really gotten very positive with the future.  It stuff when you invest time and money in birds you think are going to do it and they don’t.  I am hooked.

 

How do you get your roller information fix? (NBRC mag etc… or on the internet?)

 

I am not as active with anything except the HFRF and the news letter and emails from the HFRF.  They do a great job of keeping me informed however and have a great website and news letter which is totally free which is even better.

 

What kind of rollers are you working with? (family or strains) tell us about your favorite roller(s) and their qualities?

 

Currently just birds from Dave Henderson and Joe Urbon

 

If you could give one bit of advice on what you would tell a newer fancier to get going in the right direction what would this advice be?

 

I think the best advice I could give would be to start with a good family of birds from the beginning.  Go around, talk to guys and find out who has good birds in your area and see them first hand and try to obtain the best of these you can.  Always get as much advice on how to manage and handle these birds so you will have a greater chance of success right away.  I am really excited to see what the future has for me.

 

 

                                   

Who are you? How old are you? Are you married/single/kids? What is your job title?

 

Wendell Spisak - age 62- married with 2 sons - retired Postmaster

 

How long you been raising rollers? Explain your experience.

 

49 years with a break for military service and a span of about 5 years when my birds were all killed while on loan.

 

Who was most instrumental in progressing you with your rollers?

 

My first good family was Pensom and Plona birds. I kept them for over 30 years.  My restart was with good spinners from Dave Henderson and Rick Mee.

 

How many pairs do you currently have? How many kits you flying?

 

16 stock pairs, but some are used sparingly, depending upon what traits I need in the kitbirds. I fly a comp kit, a B team, and usually 5 young kits.

 

Do you compete in any kit competitions? (WC and all others)

 

Mostly World Cup only, depending upon how bad the hawk migration is in the fall.

 

How would you describe your passion for your rollers and your outlook for the future?

 

I love a great spinner, no matter who owns it, but really like big simultaneous breaks with high quality and good depth. I have some of the best spinners I've raised in years flying right now. If the falcons and hawks leave me alone, things look good.

 

How do you get your roller information fix? (NBRC mag etc… or on the internet?)

 

E-mails from friends in the sport. Roller lists, the internet, and the NBRC bulletin.

 

 

 

What kind of rollers are you working with? (family or strains) tell us about your favorite roller(s) and their qualities?

 

My two main families are from Dave Henderson and Rick Mee. Both families can produce the birds I need, tight kitting, good style, H or ( ), high velocity, and good depth. I also have a pair or two from friends who want me to try their families.

 

Do you regularly associate with any roller fanciers or local clubs?

 

I belong to the Mid-Michigan Roller Club, but live too far North to join in their young bird/old bird fly's. I get visitors from Michigan and the nearby states, but do allot of socializing via e-mails.

 

How did you become a part of the HFRF? Do you enjoy our website/news letter?

 

I was invited to join as an associate by Dave when the club was formed. I enjoy reading about the club and its fly's and functions.

 

If you could give one bit of advice on what you would tell a newer fancier to get going in the right direction what would this advice be?

 

Don't pound two boards together for a loft or kitbox until you visit as many roller fanciers as possible. Take all the best ideas, including ways to minimize dust in the loft, and then plan your loft. Buy the absolute best rollers you can find, even if it means starting with only one pair. Better to spend your money on one proven pair of high quality stockers than 10 pair of just decent rollers. Too many fanciers are in a hurry to fill their lofts with as many pair as possible. 90% of these birds will not be found in the loft within 3 years, as few will move the breeding program forward.

 

My second preference would be to buy a squeaker kit bred off good stockers, and fly them out. Keep the very best for you stock loft when mature, and use the others as fosters to increase production from the good ones.

 

 

 

UPDATES

 

 

I encourage everyone to participate in this part of the news letter as I think it’s very popular amongst the members and associates.  It’s our philosophy that if you are part of the HFRF then we would like to know who you are.  We would prefer to have an active group that is willing to share their stories and ideals.

 

I hope you enjoy this months Updates like always.

 

Let’s start this out with me again. 

 

Well the birds are starting to do pretty well.  A lot of them are still very young but I have a real kit flying now 23 in total.  They are kitting well but I have to be careful when I fly them that the birds in training are not in the training cage as some are tempted to come down and land with them as they appear to be on the roof of the loft from the air you know?  So I am going to have to lock out these birds or feed them just before I fly the older kit.  Some of the older kit birds have only been flying for about a month or less so at times they might think someone is going to get a jump on the food by being on the roof before they are?

 

I have banded some where around 50 birds year to date which isn’t that great but I have only 8 pair going right now.  I am going to put up at least 2 young cocks in the coming year once I get a good idea of what I have out there.  I will probably lock them down before the predators hit hard and this should give me an idea of what is out there.  This will of course be premature but I need them.

 

I can pretty much see a bird flying and then look at the type and at what age it’s developing and make a pretty good idea of what how the bird is going to develop.  At times we have to do this when you are in a situation of needing a few to stock up.  I might see if I can fly them as long as I can before identifying them, last year I made it until the first part of November before locking down but you never know how that is, they might start hitting me in early October who knows for sure until that time gets here.

 

I have to thank Joe for giving me a little boost with some young birds as he had 10 he gave me just before the BBQ and I only lost 1 of them, not bad really.  Several look very nice that are in there and I have high expectation for a few of them.  They are looking real well and kitting tight, just like the family trait.  I will be getting a small group next year also as Joe will not have as much time as he has in the past to fly birds.  Working 6 days a week running your own business can do this.

 

I think I will have to completely clean down the loft this year and repaint as I think I have some birds with some minor bugs lingering from last season as I really didn’t clean out my breeding loft and sanitize it like I do normally and I notice that the birds were a lot slower to get going this year.  This is usually the case.  I also didn’t medicate after the season ended and only gave them vitamins.  I did however give them wormer which doesn’t’ do much but kill the internal parasites if they have some.  I will have to more “by the book” this coming season. 

I will be breeding a little late this season to get a few guys some late rounders but this fine as I probably won’t get started as early next year, plus if Joe can kick me down some earlier ones then I should be ok early.  I just want to get things cleaned up right.  more soon

Dave  Henderson

 

   (more updates coming)

 

 

 

  

Featured Article

Proper Management

By

Dave Henderson

 

Some might take kit management for granted but it is probably the most important part about flying competition rollers.  This is really knowing how to get the most from your rollers and being able to identify things that are wrong when birds act a certain way.  These are things completely separate from breeding rollers.

 

When you really get serious about flying rollers, management really comes into play more then anything else.  This would include feeding, and handling the birds in the kit.  Poor management can make good birds bad and this is something we see more then anything else. 

 

I lot of fanciers, especially newer fanciers, really are not fully aware of the importance of proper management; I mean really how hard is it to fly some birds and throw some feed down right?  We’ll if you want to get the most out of your birds there is a little more involved then that and I will cover some of this in this short article.

 

Training young birds isn’t even really easy unless you have birds that are easy to manage and train.  Some guys have to fight tooth and nail to get a kit of young in the air and then others barely do anything and get a kit flying with ease.  Why is this?  Well most of it is genetics plain and simple, but a lot of it comes down to management techniques.   I know I find it much easier to train young birds when I have 10 or less, a lot of young birds are much more difficult to get going and this could be a lot of their problems too, just having TOO many birds.

 

Genetics can play a major role in how you train your birds, you have to figure out what to do to get them to do what you want or you will not be successful with them.  All birds are NOT the same and you can’t handle them all the same.  This is why if you are new to rollers it is very important that you don’t get TOO MUCH going early on or it will make your job of selection a big nightmare, meaning keeping fewer families as possible.  More birds will also mean more record keeping.  My advice to most is to keep LESS then 8 pairs of birds for at least the first 2-3 years and once you start to grasp what you have in the stock loft you can increase your number of pairs, but for the most part you will NEVER need more then about 12 pairs or rollers in my opinion.

 

Many times guys will ask management ideas from more experienced guys but will not really follow these guidelines right away.  Like a lot of us we will try to cut corners as much as possible and many times cutting corners can cause ill effects with our rollers.   I have to admit that if I had to do what some guys have to do to get my birds fly I would be looking for other birds too.  I don’t have a lot of time so things have to be easy and simple for me.  I do know that with my current time restraints that I can put in to the birds that keeping 3-4 kits is not going to work very well for me.  I basically only have time to fly about 2 kits if I want to manage them properly.

 

The honest truth is that you will hear so much info from different fanciers that you need to really think practical ideas and use a lot more common sense then anything else.  To be successful in this sport you really don’t need to be a rocket scientist.  The vast majority of this is watching and reacting to what you see.  The facts are this, even if you have a fantastic spinner that is cranking 40-50 footers in perfect form it will do you no good what so ever until it can perform with the kit.  These birds have to kit to score, so a bunch of loose kitting deep spinners will not do you any good at all.  The saying is like breeds like.  Meaning if you stock birds that show problems while flying and rolling the chances are greater that they will also produce birds more like themselves.

 

Proper management will have most to do about the amount of quality time you can put into your birds that will get you the most out of them.  This is the amount of quality time you have to spend with your birds on a daily basis.  It’s a simple equation; free time + X amount of birds = proper management.  This equation is obviously not the same for everyone.   If you have limited time and have too many birds you will suffer the fate of not managing your kit birds properly due to time restraints and you will in hast cull many more birds that you would normally not cull if you kept fewer birds and managed them better.   If you are retired you will have the opportunity to be the best that you can be if you can manage them correctly.

 

Having the right loft set up will do wonders for you also.  I think you must have AT LEAST 3 kit boxes that are identical to do it right, they can be very similar even if not identical.   I use 4 kit boxes myself and find this is a must for my situation.  When your kit boxes are identical you can swap birds around from kit box to kit box with ease if you need to.  When you are selecting an “A” team you have to be able to move birds from one kit to another as need be during the selection process.  I have seen where guys have multiple types and designs which will slow this process down somewhat, not to mention that their kit boxes may not even be in the same general which can also be an obstacle. 

 

I like to handle the young birds pretty closely and keep a close watch on them as they can easily get sick or can be slowly starving themselves due to not getting enough feed and this can cause them to roll down and do all sorts of odd uncharacteristic things if you aren’t paying close enough attention.  It’s real easy to cull a bird but you can’t bring it back once it’s dead.

 

I find that with young birds that are not fully matured that start to spin with good velocity that they tend to need to be monitored very closely at times as they can quickly turn into a roll down if you aren’t paying good enough attention or can become a habitual non kitting bird.  I find it very beneficial to simply separate off the young birds that are showing a mature velocity spin and fly them every other day until they get thru their adult molt.  I will however continue to fly the birds that have not yet developed a mature spin daily until they do.

 

Birds that are spinning hard as young birds will most often not have a very good appetite after flying and if you don’t stay on top of them they will loose lot of body weight and begin to shows signs of struggling on their fly days.  I often refer this concept to new rollers guys by saying it’s similar to a marathon runner, you aren’t going to have them run a race then 10 minutes after running it sit down and eat a full meal, it’s not going to happen and your top spinners will not do it either.  If you simply cut back on the number of days you fly these birds in a week it will most likely straighten up, this is a healing period for them.  I have had to rest some for more then a week to build them back up before flying them again once they have torn down their bodies so far. 

 

I have actually even rested up some that went from flipping to rolling 40 footers almost overnight for up to a month to try and prevent them from becoming a roll down and at times it will work, the mind (maturity) has to catch up to the rolling ability, it’s a maturity issue.   You see this most often with birds that start to fly out of the kit, as when they are in the kit they feel the urge to roll more so by staying out of the kit they can keep from rolling so much.  This type of bird is simply scared to roll.

 

Once I see a bird doing this I will pull them and rest them for a few days and feed them up good.  You will find that a lot of young birds that are spinning hard or with a lot of frequency will often not be getting enough feed as they are exhausted when they land and it can take an hour or more after landing before they are ready to eat.  By pulling this bird and giving it extra rest you can prevent it from becoming a habitual non kitting bird.

 

These are just subtle things too look for but I assure you if you start to try and analyze why a bird is acting up instead of just culling it you will go a long ways in this sport. 

 

Keep’em flying

 

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Pigeon Suppliers

 

Here is a list of pigeon suppliers that you can either visit online or call and request a catalog.  If you have a current illness going on I would always suggest getting your meds from JEDDS, from Southern California, as they are only 1-2 days out from getting you these needed supplies to fix up your birds.

 

JEDDS Pigeon Supplies

1165 N. Red Gum-Anaheim, CA  92806  1-800-659-5928 

webpage; www.jedds.com

They have a really nice online catalog for ordering.  JEDDS is the largest supplier and can get ANY meds you might be looking for via their European company as well.  If you live in California this is your best bet if you need it fast.

 

Charles Siegel and Son, Inc.

1711 Main Street, Jeanerette, Louisiana  70544 

1-800-437-4436

www.siegelpigeons.com

Great pigeon supply house, I didn’t know they were still around?  They have great prices and an extensive online catalog.  They definitely have things that I have not seen at the other 3 listed on this page.  I know I will be checking out their service in the coming months.  Not to mention you can get extensive information that only a vet can give you by calling and talking to Ed.

 

Foy’s Pigeon Supplies

3185 Bennetts Run Road-Beaver Falls, PA  15010 

1-877-355-7727

email orders to; foyspigeon@access995.com

www.foyspigeonsupplies.com

Foy’s is the longest or oldest operating supplier I have known of.  They are under a new ownership as of a few years ago.  They resided in Minnesota for a VERY long time before the old owner retired and sold the business.  They have about every pigeon book you can imagine at their store which is a major plus.

 

 

Global Pigeon Supplies

2301 Rowland Ave-Savannah, GA  31404  1-800-562-2295

www.globalpigeon.com

They have a nice online catalog to work from and if you tell him you can get something cheaper somewhere else they will match prices with any similar item being sold at other suppliers.  However from here shipping is much more then you will find from JEDDS not to mention the time frame in which you will get stuff.  You normally get things from JEDDS in 2-3 days. 

 

 

HFRF MEMBERS AND ASSOCIATES

 

Members

 

*Joe Urbon, (secretary-treasurer) Yuba City, CA  jmurbonlofts@sbcglobal.net  #751-3010

 

*Dave Henderson (bulletin editor), Redding, CA  spintight@excite.com #222-5885

 

*Don Siggins, Yuba City, CA  Siginsdon@aol.com  

#530-790-6839

 

Mike Tarbox, SF-Gerber ridemhigh@sbcglobal.net   

 

 

Associates

 

*John Leake, Shasta Lake, CA jleake@columbiasd.com  #530-275-4409

 

*Tod Hess, Gerber, CA  rollinhlofts@hotmail.com

#530-385-1627 currently out of birds

 

*Carl Schoelkopf,  Redding, CA  carlschoelkopf@sbcglobal.net   530-243-8816

 

Peter Xiong (Jr) , Marysville, CA  Peter_xiong02@hotmail.com

 

Kevin Xiong currently out of birds

 

Ger Xiong currently out of birds

 

Don Penny, Yuba City, CA  Not online

 

James Langford, Weed, CA  jalang@cwnet.com

 

David Yang (JR Assoc) Marysville, CA  ouki_kun@hotmail.com

#530-741-0988

 

Dave Wrestler, Quincy, CA  rolldown@hotmail.com

 

*Bill Crider, Sacramento, CA  Cridercrader@aol.com

 

Chris DeTorres, Dixon, CA cdetorres@charter.net

 

Cesar Gomez, Inglewood, CA  c_gomez12@hotmail.com  

 

Sal Ibarra, Medesto, CA BIGSAL707@aol.com 

 

 

Paul Fullerton, Woodland, CA paulfullerton@sbcglobal.net

 

Chor Vang, Sacramento

 

Paul Gomez  Central City, CA Ezeedad@aol.com

 

Johnny Vang, Sacramento johnnykv@hotmail.com 

 

Chuck Foster, Vacaville, CA cfo1025494@aol.com

 

Sid Licea, Visalia, CA  djsid@aol.com

 

Russ Dunagan, Whittier, CA r.d.dunagan@prodigy.net  

 

Dale Calvillo, Southern Cal, spinwzrd@msn.com

 

Mark Booker, Kernville, CA pigeonbook@yahoo.com

 

Out of State Associates

 

*Keith Hughey, Owosso, MI  Keithrollers@aol.com

currently out of rollers

 

*Dan Cowell, Grants Pass, OR  Dnjlofts@aol.com

 

*Scott Rice, Manheim, PA  RICELOFT5@aol.com

 

Lewis Weaver, Canton, GA Silfox54@aol.com

770-592-0445

 

Janene & Larry Downing, Idaho Injdowning@pmt.org

 

Val Reneau, Oklahoma  VCReneau@TEPPCO.COM

 

Bruce Gordon, Alaska  brucegyna@gci.net

 

Oscar Cordova, Douglas, AZ  currently off line 

 

Robert Perry, Hawaii ROBZBIRDZ2@aol.com  

 

*Wendell Spisak, Spruce, MI  builtforspeed@mich.com  

 

Dennis Nakashima, Kaneohe, Oahu Hawaiidoves2@aol.com

 

Jim Quinn,  Arizona  linephreak@yahoo.com 

 

*Bob Simpson (NBRC) Skyland, NC  NBRCPubEd@aol.com

 

*Randy Wilson, Savanna, OK 

wilsonrr@indiannationinternet.net

 

Robert E Lee, Stillwell, OK roblee3@alltel.net

 

 

* denotes member/associate that will never be added to the inactive list due to their long term friendship to the HFRF and it’s members.

 

 

 

 

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